Mixer(s) and mixing~

I totally forgot about this one .__.
so Melon will be our mixer. Will you need help, Melon?
Well, I guess, since overall mixing (volume balancing, giving effects, and mastering) is better to be done by only a person, what we can do to help is timing and clearing the vocals (EQ).

And.
I'm supposed to make something like mixing tutorial here, LOL x'D
Sorry, is a bit busy ;w;
But if you have a question related to mixing, I can help~

Yup XD I'm pretty sure I can do EQ... I think... o___o; I've only used it about 5 or 7 times before though

Edit: Btw, do you want mixers to post up samples of our mixing?

@yunomi and crystel
lol okay, i'll see what i can do. *is searching internet to find the correct phrases first*

@melon
what program are you using, melon? xD
well, EQ is not really required to every vocals. It's mainly used to make all vocals in the same "clear" level.

As I said above, I'm actually leaning to only have one mixer for overall mixing.
Well, more than one can do too, but then they have to repeatedly exchange the mixing result to make the vocal level sounds the same, before then combining it.

And this one mixer can also get help from the other, which including timing and EQ (not really sure about EQ, since there will surely be different perspective.)

I use a mixture of Mixcraft and Audacity o___o; I'm not very good with other programs |||OTL

Lol, I'll be no help at all in this department. I've never mixed before, still learning. orz

Melonramune wrote:

Btw, do you want mixers to post up samples of our mixing?

eeep didn't see this ;A;
sure melon. that's one mixing sample in your singing sample right?
but I'd like to hear a full song you have mixed xD

and guuys for the tutorial thingy. so sorry I'm still busy ;o; I'll make it later.

since I'm still busy ;A;
here's a guide for audacity users, if you haven't read it~
http://ytchorus.forumotion.com/t1687-the-beginner-s-guide-to-mixing-audacity

it doesn't really cover the practical use of EQ though. well.. i use it by feelings too haha ^^;

hope wrote:

Melonramune wrote:

Btw, do you want mixers to post up samples of our mixing?

eeep didn't see this ;A;
sure melon. that's one mixing sample in your singing sample right?
but I'd like to hear a full song you have mixed xD

and guuys for the tutorial thingy. so sorry I'm still busy ;o; I'll make it later.

So how about mixers use Audacity as our basic mixing program? It'll be easier for us to share files.

I can't show any recent mixing I've done due to privacy reasons, but here're some older ones I mixed when I was into UTAU:

sm11733775 [A collab with a friend, but I did only mixing by myself. I did little to no editing on the UST I used though.]

sm13031155 [I didn't make the UTAULOID's voice though.]

sm15371673 [Likewise, I didn't make the UTAULOID's voice.]

How do you use reverb properly/what's the best settings to use on reverb? ;w;

@Yunomi Thanks!
I am now 20% smarter.

I'm only doing half the song for now because I'm lazy and it's really just practice for now.

Melonramune wrote:

So how about mixers use Audacity as our basic mixing program? It'll be easier for us to share files.

sure thing <3 but since I use Audition, people with Audition can also help mixing/ask something to me; I hope I can answer ^p^;

Melonramune wrote:

I can't show any recent mixing I've done due to privacy reasons, but here're some older ones I mixed when I was into UTAU

They're awesome, Melon! But since utau voices differ from real singing, it's kinda hard to tell, lol xD but those alone are good jobs <3

crystellaris wrote:

can any1 tell me the difference betweeen mixing and mastering btw lol?

these are all me concluding things LOL
mixing : timing, vocal modification (EQ, dryness/wetness, compression, etc), effects (reverb, delay, echo, etc)
mastering : volume balancing, panning, overall blending (including doing changes to the karaoke/offvocal track if needed)

many people say mastering is done after all tracks are mixed into one wav file. but LOL, I consider mastering includes balancing and things too. (too lazy to do anything once one mixed track is produced.)

crystellaris wrote:

or isnt the order so important?

the order is important x'D at least for real mixers--who use real mixing tools. (not just programs LOL)

but if you're using Audition or other mixing program which enables us to add effects and things in the mixer section non-permanently, then any order is fine~
and yeah; actually reverb must always come last.

(for Audition) for noise reduction, it's done in the track section instead of multitrack. so it must be the very first thing you do.

crystellaris wrote:

and also got probs with compression -.-
and by the noise reduction I shouldnt get reduced 100%?
I dont know if its becoz of my mic, but I want to get the voice to clear,
but it sounds a bit like a phone....

yeah, noise reduction must not be at 100%. I usually do it at 80% and 30 db. But it actually depends too xD

what problem you have with the compression?
(I dunno if I can help though, I really do it by feelings LOL)

ah.. and about mic.
I use a USB condenser mic, Samson Meteor.

haha yeah, when I use Audacity, I do the amplifying in the slider too x'D

lol, don't worry, with mixing, any mic will sound great <3 you just need to know how to produce the best recording from the mic (no excessive popping, not too much bg noises, etc.)

@Yunomi I...I'm working on it! D:
My mixing's still really bad!
So I'm gonna do another sample with no mixing!
(except noise removal and syncing with bg music, if that even counts)

@Yunomi I'M ALMOST DONE
JUST

MAKING THE WARNING
Also lol Acapellas, I could, but it'd be a lot more recording...

@Hope Do you know how to prevent clipping besides angling the mic away from your mouth and reducing the sensitivity? Because even if I lower the sensitivity, it still clips, just at a lower wavelength than normal, plus the volume isn't as loud.